Grateful Dead Live at Springfield Civic Center on 1972-10-02
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- 1972-10-02 ( check for other copies)
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- Soundboard, Charlie Miller
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Set 1
Cold Rain & Snow, Mexicali Blues, Tennessee Jed, Beat It On Down The Line, Bird Song, Black Throated Wind, Big Railroad Blues, El Paso, Brown Eyed Women, Cumberland Blues, Jack Straw, Don't Ease Me In, Playin' In The Band, Casey Jones
Set 2
Promised Land, He's Gone-> Me And Bobby McGee, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Tomorrow Is Forever, Greatest Story Ever Told, Mississippi Half Step-> Stella Blue, Truckin'-> Nobody's Fault But Mine-> Drums-> Uncle John's Band Jam-> Morning Dew, Sugar Magnolia, E:Uncle John's Band-> E: Johnny B. Goode
Cold Rain & Snow, Mexicali Blues, Tennessee Jed, Beat It On Down The Line, Bird Song, Black Throated Wind, Big Railroad Blues, El Paso, Brown Eyed Women, Cumberland Blues, Jack Straw, Don't Ease Me In, Playin' In The Band, Casey Jones
Set 2
Promised Land, He's Gone-> Me And Bobby McGee, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Tomorrow Is Forever, Greatest Story Ever Told, Mississippi Half Step-> Stella Blue, Truckin'-> Nobody's Fault But Mine-> Drums-> Uncle John's Band Jam-> Morning Dew, Sugar Magnolia, E:Uncle John's Band-> E: Johnny B. Goode
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Song Title | Versions | Compilations | Covers |
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Cold Rain And Snow | |||
Mexicali Blues | |||
Tennessee Jed | |||
Beat It On Down The Line | |||
Bird Song | |||
Black Throated Wind | |||
Big Railroad Blues | |||
El Paso | |||
Brown Eyed Women | |||
Cumberland Blues | |||
Jack Straw | |||
Don't Ease Me In | |||
Playing In The Band | |||
Casey Jones | |||
Promised Land | |||
He's Gone -> | |||
Me And Bobby McGee | |||
China Cat Sunflower -> | |||
I Know You Rider | |||
Tomorrow Is Forever | |||
Greatest Story Ever Told | |||
Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo -> | |||
Stella Blue | |||
Truckin' -> | |||
Nobody's Fault But Mine Jam -> | |||
Drums -> | |||
Jam -> | |||
Morning Dew | |||
Sugar Magnolia | |||
Uncle John's Band | |||
Johnny B. Goode |
Notes
Notes:
-- All disc changes are seamless
-- Thanks to David Gans for the recording
-- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction
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- gd1972-10-02.sbd.gans.miller.112864.flac16
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- Data DVD -> Adobe Audition v3.0 -> Samplitude Professional v11.2 -> FLAC
- Location
- Springfield, MA
- Run time
- 237:58.55
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- Charlie Miller
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- Springfield Civic Center
- Year
- 1972
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Reviewer:
c-freedom
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October 2, 2024 (edited)
Subject: Tell me all that you know..
Subject: Tell me all that you know..
A solid first set all tunes are nice
Bird Song and PITB
are vehicles for explorations.
(Second Set has some good
Tune to tune jams.)
So this Fall 72 is like
America 🇺🇸 1972
The Cumberland is epic.
Arrangement of this song
Is just perfect with Phil
Joining in for backing vocals.
So does this add credence
That Cumberland is
a Phil Zone choice?
Jack Straw another Phil heavy
Mic step-up.
The first sets from this tour
Just flow so well.
Generous set list
with big jams to boot.
My old buddy
Your moving much to slow..
Don’t Ease-that would be it
for Set one in the later years
But wait there is more.
One of the original early rockers.
If you can dance
this is your chance
to leave it on the floor.
Wow! So c😎😎L
It takes them forever to get
Donna Jean
Front and Center.
There is over 20 minutes of PITB
a song that was under 4 minutes
in 1971. Next step will be to pair this with other standards my fav being Playin-) UJB
But the way they would weave in and out
was hypnotic.
Heck they got to the point where they would start PITB one night and do the reprise later in the tour
Good jam here and as there is no Dark Star or Other One this is the heart of the inter-stellar exploration.
I wonder who calls the Casey Jones closer?
In 1977 they open with Casey Jones at The Paramount (TDIH)
Definitely a case of you had me at hello.
Super tight Casey Jones!
Great sound!
Set Two
Promised-works good as a Second Set opener.
Love Bobby’s step back rap.
Crushed at a Dead show
Oh, the horror!
My Mom nixed me going to see The Dead late in the 70s because she heard someone fell off the balcony at a show.
It scared her but made me curious 🔥
He’s Gone- this is another one of the tunes that got worked out on the road.
Listen to versions from Europe 72
The song was in its infancy.
I like Donna Jean moaning low.
Jam inside of He’s Gone is just yummy.
Love that call and response.
Phil in there with his baritone.
Taste of what would make Donna
an important part of the band.
Not sure why it is listed
as He’s Gone -) Me &Bobby
there’s a lot of daylight between the two songs.
So this set is officially blowing me away
Half Step-) Stella
and the Truckin’
‘Reviewer said typical for 72
But nothing special.’
I respectfully disagree with that assessment
and my gut tells me
anyone who made this show
well they had it made!
Bird Song and PITB
are vehicles for explorations.
(Second Set has some good
Tune to tune jams.)
So this Fall 72 is like
America 🇺🇸 1972
The Cumberland is epic.
Arrangement of this song
Is just perfect with Phil
Joining in for backing vocals.
So does this add credence
That Cumberland is
a Phil Zone choice?
Jack Straw another Phil heavy
Mic step-up.
The first sets from this tour
Just flow so well.
Generous set list
with big jams to boot.
My old buddy
Your moving much to slow..
Don’t Ease-that would be it
for Set one in the later years
But wait there is more.
One of the original early rockers.
If you can dance
this is your chance
to leave it on the floor.
Wow! So c😎😎L
It takes them forever to get
Donna Jean
Front and Center.
There is over 20 minutes of PITB
a song that was under 4 minutes
in 1971. Next step will be to pair this with other standards my fav being Playin-) UJB
But the way they would weave in and out
was hypnotic.
Heck they got to the point where they would start PITB one night and do the reprise later in the tour
Good jam here and as there is no Dark Star or Other One this is the heart of the inter-stellar exploration.
I wonder who calls the Casey Jones closer?
In 1977 they open with Casey Jones at The Paramount (TDIH)
Definitely a case of you had me at hello.
Super tight Casey Jones!
Great sound!
Set Two
Promised-works good as a Second Set opener.
Love Bobby’s step back rap.
Crushed at a Dead show
Oh, the horror!
My Mom nixed me going to see The Dead late in the 70s because she heard someone fell off the balcony at a show.
It scared her but made me curious 🔥
He’s Gone- this is another one of the tunes that got worked out on the road.
Listen to versions from Europe 72
The song was in its infancy.
I like Donna Jean moaning low.
Jam inside of He’s Gone is just yummy.
Love that call and response.
Phil in there with his baritone.
Taste of what would make Donna
an important part of the band.
Not sure why it is listed
as He’s Gone -) Me &Bobby
there’s a lot of daylight between the two songs.
So this set is officially blowing me away
Half Step-) Stella
and the Truckin’
‘Reviewer said typical for 72
But nothing special.’
I respectfully disagree with that assessment
and my gut tells me
anyone who made this show
well they had it made!
Reviewer:
August West74
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October 2, 2023
Subject: Typical for 1972 but nothing special.
Subject: Typical for 1972 but nothing special.
I love some 1972 Dead and this show is okay, nothing too special. Some moments here and there. Jerry has a nice fat guitar tone too and I am guessing it's a Strat.
If anything,I like the early versions of both "Stella Blue", "Mississippi Half Step" and before listening to this show today, I had never heard the Jerry and Donna duet of "Tomorrow is Forever", which I see is a Dolly Parton and Porter Wagoner tune. Very nice.
The only minor gripe I have about this show (and others) is the tuning between each song. Couldn't this have been edited out??
If anything,I like the early versions of both "Stella Blue", "Mississippi Half Step" and before listening to this show today, I had never heard the Jerry and Donna duet of "Tomorrow is Forever", which I see is a Dolly Parton and Porter Wagoner tune. Very nice.
The only minor gripe I have about this show (and others) is the tuning between each song. Couldn't this have been edited out??
Reviewer:
sislane
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favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite -
November 28, 2020 (edited)
Subject: recording history
Subject: recording history
I have a MRS->Cass->My DAT (1 cassette). The speed of my recording is a hair faster. Was the master off? The transfer from the cassette to my DAT was done within a month or so of the RS-> cassette. (I see the same recording on a different archive)
Did David Gans have the MSR from the vault? I don't hear the flip/splice during playin' ~ 9:40 that mine has, and can't imagine there were two sound board masters made. (?) And if this recording is from the vault reels, why was the pitch adjusted? Did he really transfer a master reel direct to DAT?
Did David Gans have the MSR from the vault? I don't hear the flip/splice during playin' ~ 9:40 that mine has, and can't imagine there were two sound board masters made. (?) And if this recording is from the vault reels, why was the pitch adjusted? Did he really transfer a master reel direct to DAT?
Reviewer:
chris phillips
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April 24, 2015 (edited)
Subject: great tour
Subject: great tour
There’s more to appreciate in everyone’s individual contributions fall ’72 very pleasing to the ear
Reviewer:
kochman
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November 25, 2013
Subject: Massive in Mass
Subject: Massive in Mass
Cold Rain & Snow is a perfect opener. The initial chords are a bit off, but within a minute or two they've got it firing on all cylinders.
Mexicali makes an early appearance, plenty of funky pep. Almost sounds like Bob's guitar is purposely out of tune?
TN Jed, in the payoff jam you get some X factor from Jerry and Bob playing off each other amazingly. Keith is a bit subdued. Tough to hear Billy much at all in this Miller SBD.
BIODTL
Bird Song features the focused, thematic jamming it would always have. It's good teamwork, Phil in particular laying down some good areas for Jerry to work around, while Bob throws in mainly stoccato chords in an interesting pattern. Jerry flies high in his solos. They don't do the fake ending before heading back to the verse, which I appreciated. Clocking in at 13 minutes, very enjoyable.
BTW was just what the doctor ordered. Great drowning in you pay off at the end.
On the heels of this we get Big Railroad Blues, total fun.
El Paso is just about right. We get some great moments of being in synch here.
BEW is solid.
Cumberland Mines brings us some harmony and a great, trainlike rhythm. Jerry isn't shy with the noodles, though he seems to be a bit low in the mix. This is a blow your doors off version even with a lower than desirable Jer (does seem to improve as the song goes on). A+.
Jack Straw keeps us in the vocal teamwork category.
Don't Ease is rocking and rolling!
PITB takes a minute to get really cooking, but once it does, by about 8 minutes, it's full of noodles and Phil rocking. I think it's still a good idea to turn up the mid-range if you have EQ capabilities, to get Garcia more out there. It calms back down a little, for a PITB anyhow, around 14 minutes. After the 17 minute mark Jerry takes on a nice, watery/wavy tone, and Keith works into the tone magically right before the return to theme to mark the reprise. Despite the stong finish, decent for a year of standout PITBs, worth the listen, but not a shining star.
Casey Jones to end the set.
Promised Land lacks the pep I would look for in an opener. It then leads into a funny Take a Step Back.
He's Gone isn't likely to bring the energy back where I would like it, though there is an extended jam at the end. The playing during the body of the song is well done, and bodes well for said jam. They throw in a bit longer of a jam before the vocal reprise. It features some strong Garcia notes. Too much vocal reprise, and the hoped for jam after is short and doesn't really do anything, and thusly Bob takes us into...
Bobby McGee. After the anticlimatic Gone, this is a nice choice, not too much of a clash, but putting us back on the road to enjoyable music. We get that awesome trill from Jerry in the solo, and he makes his guitar sing the words. I don't appreciate the weird, quasi-yodelling vocals nearer the end.
China Rider, China starts with intent Bobby notes behind Jerry. The first solo is rather short. Nice transition jam, especially after the switch over into Rider. Rider keeps a nice steady pace. The finale jam is full of energy, charging up that mountain.
Tomorrow is forever.
GSET is greatly appreciated at this point! Another homerun here! Donna... gak.
1/2 Step isn't half steppin! Good version here.
Stella Blue comes right out of it nicely. Pretty much one of those flawless versions, very nicely done.
Truckin>Nobody Jam>Drums>UJB Jam>Dew. Truckin is a fun ride! Great jam leading up to the explosion, that leads to the first Nodoby's Fault But Mine jam in a while. It's short but cool, and falls into drums.
Phil is the first to join back up. They make their way into an UJB jam. A little light for me.
The transition into Dew, however, is pretty cool. The Dew itself is majestic, properly rising and falling. Finale features fanning and does what the Dew is supposed to do.
Sugar Magnolia closes out the set in style.
Double encore of UJB, earlier jammed, into JBG. A solid combo to end a delightful evening. In the end, they reached high points several times, but they didn't maintain it, so I can't call it a top show of the year. A 4.5 really.
Mexicali makes an early appearance, plenty of funky pep. Almost sounds like Bob's guitar is purposely out of tune?
TN Jed, in the payoff jam you get some X factor from Jerry and Bob playing off each other amazingly. Keith is a bit subdued. Tough to hear Billy much at all in this Miller SBD.
BIODTL
Bird Song features the focused, thematic jamming it would always have. It's good teamwork, Phil in particular laying down some good areas for Jerry to work around, while Bob throws in mainly stoccato chords in an interesting pattern. Jerry flies high in his solos. They don't do the fake ending before heading back to the verse, which I appreciated. Clocking in at 13 minutes, very enjoyable.
BTW was just what the doctor ordered. Great drowning in you pay off at the end.
On the heels of this we get Big Railroad Blues, total fun.
El Paso is just about right. We get some great moments of being in synch here.
BEW is solid.
Cumberland Mines brings us some harmony and a great, trainlike rhythm. Jerry isn't shy with the noodles, though he seems to be a bit low in the mix. This is a blow your doors off version even with a lower than desirable Jer (does seem to improve as the song goes on). A+.
Jack Straw keeps us in the vocal teamwork category.
Don't Ease is rocking and rolling!
PITB takes a minute to get really cooking, but once it does, by about 8 minutes, it's full of noodles and Phil rocking. I think it's still a good idea to turn up the mid-range if you have EQ capabilities, to get Garcia more out there. It calms back down a little, for a PITB anyhow, around 14 minutes. After the 17 minute mark Jerry takes on a nice, watery/wavy tone, and Keith works into the tone magically right before the return to theme to mark the reprise. Despite the stong finish, decent for a year of standout PITBs, worth the listen, but not a shining star.
Casey Jones to end the set.
Promised Land lacks the pep I would look for in an opener. It then leads into a funny Take a Step Back.
He's Gone isn't likely to bring the energy back where I would like it, though there is an extended jam at the end. The playing during the body of the song is well done, and bodes well for said jam. They throw in a bit longer of a jam before the vocal reprise. It features some strong Garcia notes. Too much vocal reprise, and the hoped for jam after is short and doesn't really do anything, and thusly Bob takes us into...
Bobby McGee. After the anticlimatic Gone, this is a nice choice, not too much of a clash, but putting us back on the road to enjoyable music. We get that awesome trill from Jerry in the solo, and he makes his guitar sing the words. I don't appreciate the weird, quasi-yodelling vocals nearer the end.
China Rider, China starts with intent Bobby notes behind Jerry. The first solo is rather short. Nice transition jam, especially after the switch over into Rider. Rider keeps a nice steady pace. The finale jam is full of energy, charging up that mountain.
Tomorrow is forever.
GSET is greatly appreciated at this point! Another homerun here! Donna... gak.
1/2 Step isn't half steppin! Good version here.
Stella Blue comes right out of it nicely. Pretty much one of those flawless versions, very nicely done.
Truckin>Nobody Jam>Drums>UJB Jam>Dew. Truckin is a fun ride! Great jam leading up to the explosion, that leads to the first Nodoby's Fault But Mine jam in a while. It's short but cool, and falls into drums.
Phil is the first to join back up. They make their way into an UJB jam. A little light for me.
The transition into Dew, however, is pretty cool. The Dew itself is majestic, properly rising and falling. Finale features fanning and does what the Dew is supposed to do.
Sugar Magnolia closes out the set in style.
Double encore of UJB, earlier jammed, into JBG. A solid combo to end a delightful evening. In the end, they reached high points several times, but they didn't maintain it, so I can't call it a top show of the year. A 4.5 really.
Reviewer:
$GWIZDOLLA$
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October 11, 2013
Subject: Aight
Subject: Aight
Standard early 70's.
Reviewer:
njpg
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October 3, 2013
Subject: -
Subject: -
I'm not really that into their '72 sound, but this show is very good for all that.
Reviewer:
GermanShepherd
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January 28, 2013 (edited)
Subject: Keys!
Subject: Keys!
Love hearing those keys out in the front of the mix. The intro to El Paso makes me smile. Thank goodness they eventually abandon Tomorrow is Forever. Ugh - 0 Stars for that song in particular.
Reviewer:
mikemet
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September 8, 2012 (edited)
Subject: china-rider transition jam
Subject: china-rider transition jam
at around 4 minutes into "Jam" the band fine tunes / discovers :the transition: that they will use for China-> Rider for years to come.
heavy bass leading into groovy jam...way good... solid stuff...blown away.
EDIT if possible: Here is a good reference show
1974-05-19 (May 19, 1974)
heavy bass leading into groovy jam...way good... solid stuff...blown away.
EDIT if possible: Here is a good reference show
1974-05-19 (May 19, 1974)
Reviewer:
spacecowboy
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May 10, 2011
Subject: Too much!!!
Subject: Too much!!!
Wow! Sound quality is incredible and the playing throughout is superb.....even the Don't Ease is intense! Thanks for sharing this fine gem.
Reviewer:
nico11104
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April 29, 2011
Subject: ...a gorgeous woman
Subject: ...a gorgeous woman
I often think of asking a beautiful woman how she can get anything done, because if I were her, I'd spend all day looking in the mirror, fascinated.
Charlie, is that what it's like for you? How do you get anything else done? How could you possibly get ANYTHING else done? This music is just that beautiful!
Oh, and by the way, at the time I'm writing this, I've only listened to Uncle John's Band Jam > Morning Dew. The sonic clarity, the passion of the musicians...it's all there and it's orgasmic.
I agree with Dylan before me; the Palace and Stanley Theater shows from the week or two before and the ensuing Midwest/Southwest shows over the following month produced a particularly solid work product from the band.
By and large, this is the era I grew up listening to as a teenager. It was the sound I fell in love with. (I listened to the Europe '72 album hundreds if not thousands of times.) I was too young to experience the experimentation, mania and antics of the 60's firsthand. Yes, I appreciate those formative years for what they are/were. But this is me...
Thank you David for the tape and Charlie for polishing and transferring it here for our enjoyment.
Best,
Nico
Charlie, is that what it's like for you? How do you get anything else done? How could you possibly get ANYTHING else done? This music is just that beautiful!
Oh, and by the way, at the time I'm writing this, I've only listened to Uncle John's Band Jam > Morning Dew. The sonic clarity, the passion of the musicians...it's all there and it's orgasmic.
I agree with Dylan before me; the Palace and Stanley Theater shows from the week or two before and the ensuing Midwest/Southwest shows over the following month produced a particularly solid work product from the band.
By and large, this is the era I grew up listening to as a teenager. It was the sound I fell in love with. (I listened to the Europe '72 album hundreds if not thousands of times.) I was too young to experience the experimentation, mania and antics of the 60's firsthand. Yes, I appreciate those formative years for what they are/were. But this is me...
Thank you David for the tape and Charlie for polishing and transferring it here for our enjoyment.
Best,
Nico
Reviewer:
Dylan M
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April 28, 2011
Subject: Primal Dead
Subject: Primal Dead
Great show. Classic sound. We love Fall 72', its when the Dead became the their mature touring entity. The setlist gained more structure (rockers with one or two good jam outs first set, and a sprawling more jammed out connecting second set).
Last Uncle John's Band Jam. They play it for encore time. Sweet
Highlights here are Bird Song, Playing, Cumberland, and the entire second set (save Tommorrow is Forever).
How could you give any show between September and December 72' less than a 5 star rating.
Great sounding update too.
Last Uncle John's Band Jam. They play it for encore time. Sweet
Highlights here are Bird Song, Playing, Cumberland, and the entire second set (save Tommorrow is Forever).
How could you give any show between September and December 72' less than a 5 star rating.
Great sounding update too.
Reviewer:
belmon36
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April 28, 2011
Subject: NICE!!
Subject: NICE!!
Just streamed through PITB. The first set is off the hook. The Cumberland Blues, Bird Song AND PITB are just fantastic. You can hear how the band is drifting into another period in terms of it's sound. The Garage rock feel that existed at the start of the year, is changing into a more refined and mellow sound. Bird Song is a great example. Garcia is trying to stretch the improvisational part of the tune away from the droning sound's that we hear so often A bit earlier. Enough chatter. Thanks for the show Charlie. Sound is Grate!!
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